Rog

Your basic logic skills is the reason why you refute what YOU see as a meaningless babble. In fact, everything that doesn’t support your pre-determined beliefs will seem and be refuted by your brains as meaningless babble…

Nothing new…

Many more, but those are the good ones. Sorry dude, your meaningless babble is refuted by my basic logic skills.

I have observed that astrology comes from our artistic creative side: it is irrational, it is art and poetry, not science. So lets study it as one studies and art. Lets learn to critique its products, and not simply seek to exterminate it.

How much does the art of birth charts have in common with some other art like painting. Let test the idea that *perhaps* humans are clever enough to produce two different arts which are each aimed at a common goal–the illumination of the idea of unique selfhood ( or Self-hood) by way of abstract symbolisms.

I test the notion by finding abstract graphic artists who apparently unintentionally project the pattern of their birth chart in their works of self-portraiture. Here’s one example (below) that I found where I search the web for abstract artists with published birth dates.

The abstract self portrait:
http://pedantus.free.fr/Ligal_E_SelfRegeneration.gif

I set up a birth chart for her provided date, and use twelve noon as the birth time …the time of course is not known to me, the experimenter. After noting where artistic similarities occur between abstract symbolism and the ‘planetary’ symbolisms of the birth chart, I adjust the chart in search of a good fit birth time ‘guess’. To be real brief here; I ‘guessed 3:14 PM, emailed the artist requesting the correct time, and learned that she was born at 3:10 PM . I make overlay comparisons, so here it is:
http://pedantus.free.fr/Ligal_E_Fig.1a.gif

It is not astrology’s fault that so few people are individualistically talented as projectors of astrological Self symbols. However, schizophrenic talents like Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) do produce their symbolism in the form of metaphor and simile. So much so that I was able to find the actual birth date, May 22, 1942, by making an ‘astrology-based’ translation of the unknown individual’s published manifesto. And did so long before his own brother recognized the writing style and anti-social political sentiments.

I think to finally study astrology for what it is, some kind of poetic psychological art only incidentally involving totally unconscious, perhaps even mindless, planetary synchronizations is way over due.

The are no apophenic knee-jerk reactions in this study of ‘ horoscopic expression’ … the time of day and various symbol positions are not arbitrarily assigned…there is and objective, falsifiable, empiracal phenomenon here which Randy, et. al., simply *refuse* to see. Adverse peptic reations here are due to some emotional problem passed off as Skepticism, and not, Reason at work. Advocacy can be taken way to far– skeptical talking points and simple rhetoric suddenly becomes science. Astrology understands the poetry here, and well understands the specific poetry of each individual speaker…be he rational or not, it is all about the unity and diversity of our many human arts and our wide ranging (mis-?) perceptions….:)

dyslexic best wishes,

Roger L. Satterlee
Elmira, NY

…And what empirical, repeatable, peer-reviewed testing have they done to prove their theory? Sorry, I need a little more evidence something will work before I spend my time and money on it.

Astrology is a type of prophetic look into the future using the solar system and bodies in the sky. There are various types of the astrology that you’ll find done is anything but real. astrology is based on the relative positions and the movements of the celestial bodies. One of the main things that astrology claims to provide is an understanding of personality traits. Some of the astrologers believe that each person has a predestined life and their life can be reflected.