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		<title>By: V.B.Venkataraman</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2008/04/02/atheism-in-hinduism/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>V.B.Venkataraman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term &quot;hinduism&quot; is an invention of the West to refer to people living in the Indian subcontinent following ,in their opinion, various &#039;pagan&#039; beliefs. Actually &#039;hinduism&#039; is not an exclusivist cult like christianity or islam. It is a way of life withfreedom to believe or disbelieve in a God/Gods. Even the Vedas have many verses which are skeptical about the concept of God/Gods. Vedas can be ritualistic,monotheistic,or polytheistic or even atheistic or agnostic. All these varied thoughts coexisted in this land for centuries until the advent of the monotheistic cults of islam and christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;hinduism&#8221; is an invention of the West to refer to people living in the Indian subcontinent following ,in their opinion, various &#8216;pagan&#8217; beliefs. Actually &#8216;hinduism&#8217; is not an exclusivist cult like christianity or islam. It is a way of life withfreedom to believe or disbelieve in a God/Gods. Even the Vedas have many verses which are skeptical about the concept of God/Gods. Vedas can be ritualistic,monotheistic,or polytheistic or even atheistic or agnostic. All these varied thoughts coexisted in this land for centuries until the advent of the monotheistic cults of islam and christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: aravind</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2008/04/02/atheism-in-hinduism/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>aravind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think prakirthi mentioned is nature not material world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think prakirthi mentioned is nature not material world.</p>
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		<title>By: nalbyuites</title>
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		<dc:creator>nalbyuites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick

I think the Atheistic and Skeptic movements will remain small in India largely because of the liberal nature of Hinduism. As the author points out, there&#039;s no right or wrong/ Dos or Don&#039;ts guidelines that are enforced by a centralised authority.

          For most Hindus, religious customs and rituals in marriage and other ceremonies are very important from a social perspective and not a religious one. Since their religious beliefs do not come into play, a large number of agnostics are happy to remain so; fulfilling their social obligations and at the same time not being threatened by religious pressures. 

         Again, in India, if you ask a Hindu, &quot;Do you believe in God?&quot;, the answer will probably be &quot;Yes&quot; but it won&#039;t mean that &#039;they know there is a God&#039;. Because here, belief in God means belief in a journey of enquiry of God  and belief in the ways to do so (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha) and not an end-result of &#039;knowing&#039; there is a God. I feel most Hindus fall under the &#039;I don&#039;t know&#039; category and thus don&#039;t feel the need for labels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick</p>
<p>I think the Atheistic and Skeptic movements will remain small in India largely because of the liberal nature of Hinduism. As the author points out, there&#8217;s no right or wrong/ Dos or Don&#8217;ts guidelines that are enforced by a centralised authority.</p>
<p>          For most Hindus, religious customs and rituals in marriage and other ceremonies are very important from a social perspective and not a religious one. Since their religious beliefs do not come into play, a large number of agnostics are happy to remain so; fulfilling their social obligations and at the same time not being threatened by religious pressures. </p>
<p>         Again, in India, if you ask a Hindu, &#8220;Do you believe in God?&#8221;, the answer will probably be &#8220;Yes&#8221; but it won&#8217;t mean that &#8216;they know there is a God&#8217;. Because here, belief in God means belief in a journey of enquiry of God  and belief in the ways to do so (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha</a>) and not an end-result of &#8216;knowing&#8217; there is a God. I feel most Hindus fall under the &#8216;I don&#8217;t know&#8217; category and thus don&#8217;t feel the need for labels.</p>
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		<title>By: Science, Reason &#38; Rationality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science, Reason &#38; Rationality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with emmarcee with this one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with emmarcee with this one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: emmarcee</title>
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		<dc:creator>emmarcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be skeptic about this skeptic/atheist. If you are a real skeptic and looking to find the &quot;truth&quot; why are you looking for a label inside the &quot;hindu&quot; label fold? that is the whole excercise of bringing in the Nastika philosophy, right? 
What you need to do is define who is Hindu. If you are saying that you are a &quot;hindu&quot; because you are an Indian, you could be of any religion - Sikh, Budhist, Muslim or Christian or even Atheist. But if you are using the term in the strict sense of the multi theistic multi philosophic religion of majority India, no you are not a Hindu. Hindutuwaadis have brought in the term sanatana Dharma to denote the continued existance for a particular philosophy from Vedic times, whenever this is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be skeptic about this skeptic/atheist. If you are a real skeptic and looking to find the &#8220;truth&#8221; why are you looking for a label inside the &#8220;hindu&#8221; label fold? that is the whole excercise of bringing in the Nastika philosophy, right?<br />
What you need to do is define who is Hindu. If you are saying that you are a &#8220;hindu&#8221; because you are an Indian, you could be of any religion &#8211; Sikh, Budhist, Muslim or Christian or even Atheist. But if you are using the term in the strict sense of the multi theistic multi philosophic religion of majority India, no you are not a Hindu. Hindutuwaadis have brought in the term sanatana Dharma to denote the continued existance for a particular philosophy from Vedic times, whenever this is.</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who prefer to hear the actual audio, you can find it here.

http://odeo.com/episodes/88016

In my opinion, it is by far the best overview of the Hindu dharm in existence in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who prefer to hear the actual audio, you can find it here.</p>
<p><a href="http://odeo.com/episodes/88016" rel="nofollow">http://odeo.com/episodes/88016</a></p>
<p>In my opinion, it is by far the best overview of the Hindu dharm in existence in English.</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2008/04/02/atheism-in-hinduism/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems many have such a limited and more or less diluted understanding of the Hindu dharm.  The cow has earned it&#039;s status as sacred because of its many advantages to mankind.  Even in death, a cow&#039;s body can be used for leather and etc.  But alive, it provides dairy and that is essential for a vegetarian diet.

Here is a quote from Swami Vivekananda from the Parliament of Religions in 1893 in Chicago, IL:

&quot;From the high spiritual flights of the Vedanta philosophy, of which the latest discoveries of science seem like echoes, to the low ideas of idolatry with its multifarious mythology, the agnosticism of the Buddhists, and the atheism of the Jains, each and all have a place in the Hindu&#039;s religion.&quot;

You can find the complete speech here:

http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_1/addresses_at_the_parliament/v1_c1_paper_on_hinduism.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems many have such a limited and more or less diluted understanding of the Hindu dharm.  The cow has earned it&#8217;s status as sacred because of its many advantages to mankind.  Even in death, a cow&#8217;s body can be used for leather and etc.  But alive, it provides dairy and that is essential for a vegetarian diet.</p>
<p>Here is a quote from Swami Vivekananda from the Parliament of Religions in 1893 in Chicago, IL:</p>
<p>&#8220;From the high spiritual flights of the Vedanta philosophy, of which the latest discoveries of science seem like echoes, to the low ideas of idolatry with its multifarious mythology, the agnosticism of the Buddhists, and the atheism of the Jains, each and all have a place in the Hindu&#8217;s religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can find the complete speech here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_1/addresses_at_the_parliament/v1_c1_paper_on_hinduism.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_1/addresses_at_the_parliament/v1_c1_paper_on_hinduism.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: DB Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The correct plural is Hindus, not Hindu’s.

...Fixed.

Thanks for the correction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>The correct plural is Hindus, not Hindu’s.</p>
<p>&#8230;Fixed.</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Foreman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey Foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.  But in both the article and the comment above there is that abominable usage of apostrophe s to indicate a plural.
The correct plural is Hindus, not Hindu&#039;s. 
These mistakes undermine the credibility of otherwise well written and informative texts.
They may have just been typos, but these should be weeded out of scholarly writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  But in both the article and the comment above there is that abominable usage of apostrophe s to indicate a plural.<br />
The correct plural is Hindus, not Hindu&#8217;s.<br />
These mistakes undermine the credibility of otherwise well written and informative texts.<br />
They may have just been typos, but these should be weeded out of scholarly writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick of CriticalCritique.Com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick of CriticalCritique.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was too lazy to read this myself the first time because it seemed like it didn&#039;t make any sense to me, but when I heard Andy of DBSkeptic read the audio version of this, I understand it better now. 

However, I think even many Hindus or the followers of Hinduism do not know or realize about this fact. I&#039;ve seen some Hindu&#039;s also speak somewhat bad about another Indian simply because he or she chose an Atheistic path. Perhaps, people still do speak somewhat bad about you at your back, but even if heard by other Indian Atheist, I don&#039;t think it will end up becoming a huge &quot;Holy&quot; war anyways because they&#039;ll just ignore the negative comments. 

The other reason I see there&#039;s not much of a problem is because the Atheists in India is rather small in number and so it does not really cause a threat to the religious existence. 

Today, the Atheist and Skeptic movement of India lead by people like Narendra Nayak, Prabir Ghosh, Basava Premanand (you can read more about them online in Wikipedia) have receive threats, even death threats to stop what they are doing. There are religious and some hired Hindu groups and gangsters who want these Atheist and Skeptic movements to stop exposing the Hindu religion and other superstitious beliefs because this is one way the Hindu charlatans are making money and controlling the masses with power. 

Right now, the opposition is quite small as these Atheist and Skeptic movements are quite small in number as well. But I wonder will it remain the same if these Atheist and Skeptic movements become larger and more influential in the near future and when it pose a bigger threat to the religious movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was too lazy to read this myself the first time because it seemed like it didn&#8217;t make any sense to me, but when I heard Andy of DBSkeptic read the audio version of this, I understand it better now. </p>
<p>However, I think even many Hindus or the followers of Hinduism do not know or realize about this fact. I&#8217;ve seen some Hindu&#8217;s also speak somewhat bad about another Indian simply because he or she chose an Atheistic path. Perhaps, people still do speak somewhat bad about you at your back, but even if heard by other Indian Atheist, I don&#8217;t think it will end up becoming a huge &#8220;Holy&#8221; war anyways because they&#8217;ll just ignore the negative comments. </p>
<p>The other reason I see there&#8217;s not much of a problem is because the Atheists in India is rather small in number and so it does not really cause a threat to the religious existence. </p>
<p>Today, the Atheist and Skeptic movement of India lead by people like Narendra Nayak, Prabir Ghosh, Basava Premanand (you can read more about them online in Wikipedia) have receive threats, even death threats to stop what they are doing. There are religious and some hired Hindu groups and gangsters who want these Atheist and Skeptic movements to stop exposing the Hindu religion and other superstitious beliefs because this is one way the Hindu charlatans are making money and controlling the masses with power. </p>
<p>Right now, the opposition is quite small as these Atheist and Skeptic movements are quite small in number as well. But I wonder will it remain the same if these Atheist and Skeptic movements become larger and more influential in the near future and when it pose a bigger threat to the religious movement?</p>
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