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		<title>By: Andy Kaiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Sandy, for the kind words. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re doing better, too!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just wanted you to know that I am 54 years old and I just went through many of the same things here because of Advil.  So, I know the dangers of dehydration and advil -- I was very near to having to have dialysis, but was started on alot of IV fluids and didn&#039;t have to have it. I only had fever and aches and pains at the first, but it sure was an interesting time.  Was in the hospital for a week because of pneumonia and my kidneys!  Finally am beginning to feel better after about a month -- so can only imagine your little one&#039;s troubles!  They seem to sometimes bounce back a bit quicker than some of us &quot; older ones&quot;  Glad that she is doing better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just wanted you to know that I am 54 years old and I just went through many of the same things here because of Advil.  So, I know the dangers of dehydration and advil &#8212; I was very near to having to have dialysis, but was started on alot of IV fluids and didn&#8217;t have to have it. I only had fever and aches and pains at the first, but it sure was an interesting time.  Was in the hospital for a week because of pneumonia and my kidneys!  Finally am beginning to feel better after about a month &#8212; so can only imagine your little one&#8217;s troubles!  They seem to sometimes bounce back a bit quicker than some of us &#8221; older ones&#8221;  Glad that she is doing better.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kaiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Guggie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Given in conjunction with vaccines, studies show it can cause mitochondrial dysfunction, predisposition to Autism and a lowered response to the vaccines themselves&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;...can you give a citation for this?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Slightly off topic: how did your little one respond to a bit of flat soda?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;She threw it up within an hour. That was one day before we went to the ER. Or possibly the day of the ER. The timeline is starting to blur.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guggie,</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;"><em>Given in conjunction with vaccines, studies show it can cause mitochondrial dysfunction, predisposition to Autism and a lowered response to the vaccines themselves</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">&#8230;can you give a citation for this?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>Slightly off topic: how did your little one respond to a bit of flat soda?</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">She threw it up within an hour. That was one day before we went to the ER. Or possibly the day of the ER. The timeline is starting to blur.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Andy</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Guggie Daly</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/10/03/hidden-dangers-with-ibuprofin-motrin-and-flu-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-4872</link>
		<dc:creator>Guggie Daly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent posting, but it loses its effect by switching over to Tylenol. Tylenol is just as hazardous as it depletes Glutathione in the liver, which is a VITAL factor for proper immune function.

In other words, if a kid gets sick and is given Tylenol, right when that kid needs a hard working body, you knock it to the ground and disable the immune system.

This is currently causing a lot of controversy within the vaccine debate as Tylenol has been the prize choice by doctors (despite no scientific foundation). Given in conjunction with vaccines, studies show it can cause mitochondrial dysfunction, predisposition to Autism and a lowered response to the vaccines themselves.

Slightly off topic: how did your little one respond to a bit of flat soda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent posting, but it loses its effect by switching over to Tylenol. Tylenol is just as hazardous as it depletes Glutathione in the liver, which is a VITAL factor for proper immune function.</p>
<p>In other words, if a kid gets sick and is given Tylenol, right when that kid needs a hard working body, you knock it to the ground and disable the immune system.</p>
<p>This is currently causing a lot of controversy within the vaccine debate as Tylenol has been the prize choice by doctors (despite no scientific foundation). Given in conjunction with vaccines, studies show it can cause mitochondrial dysfunction, predisposition to Autism and a lowered response to the vaccines themselves.</p>
<p>Slightly off topic: how did your little one respond to a bit of flat soda?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/10/03/hidden-dangers-with-ibuprofin-motrin-and-flu-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-4841</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Olivier,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;I believe that most people know some dangers are associated with ibuprofen as well a acetaminophen. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;I had no idea about such dangers. Hopefully I&#039;ve provided helpful information to someone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;How is the missing information about your daughter’s condition in anyway related to the “hidden dangers with ibuprofen [and] flu treatment”?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;To me, they are connected. Here&#039;s what I mean:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;My wife and I subscribe to a couple &quot;parent magazines&quot;. These are sometimes helpful, since they talk about developmental stages for your children, give ideas for cheap or free activities, and review various kid toys and books. In each magazine, though, are what my wife and I call &quot;I-almost-killed-my-kid-stories&quot;. They&#039;re stories sent in by parents whose children had an experience that almost turned dangerous or deadly. Some of these seemingly exist just to scare you: &quot;My toddler almost strangled herself on a window shade cord.&quot; Or &quot;My son broke his arm in his crib.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;One thing that&#039;s struck me as a young, first-time parent is the amount you have to know to simply keep your kid out of danger. Not the stuff you know intuitively, not being simply alarmist, but the stuff you&#039;d never know without research or having others&#039; help. Like:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;-Don&#039;t give your kid peanuts or honey within the first year, since that increases the chances of food allergies. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;-The baby&#039;s immune system isn&#039;t fully developed until three months or so, so take extra care not to expose her to germs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;-Put your baby on her back when she sleeps to decrease the chance of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;- Keep pregnant women away from cats and cat poop, as exposure to certain feline parasites can cause miscarriage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;The article I wrote was meant to be one of these types of warnings, where you may not have known about this without someone telling you, where the information presented was contrary to what the &quot;average person&quot; might think, where you may not have acquired this information by the act of parenting. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;This is my answer to your questioning the connection between topic and title.&lt;strong&gt; The title provides what I think is the popular assumption (there are no hidden dangers with flu treatment / ibuprofen). The article - and, increasingly, my followup comments! - are the detail why this is not the case.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;I understand that it is your right to publish what you wish to publish.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Since I run the website, yes, this is true. And while I&#039;ve rejected quite a few article ideas, you might be surprised: I&#039;ve published many articles by others that I don&#039;t agree with. If someone is a good writer, sincere, has a topic supported by at least some in the skeptical community, and supports their case with critical thinking, I might just publish it. Even if don&#039;t agree with the conclusion. &lt;strong&gt;To me, the skeptical method of analysis is just as important as the facts of the article. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;I don’t mean to sound harsh and if I appear to be I am sorry.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Not at all - Critique away! You are of course allowed to disagree with me. That&#039;s one of the &lt;a href=&quot;../../../../../articles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reasons I created DBS&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;To provide a forum for people to share their articles and debate respectfully with others&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 13px;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivier,</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;"><em>I believe that most people know some dangers are associated with ibuprofen as well a acetaminophen. </em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">I had no idea about such dangers. Hopefully I&#8217;ve provided helpful information to someone.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>How is the missing information about your daughter’s condition in anyway related to the “hidden dangers with ibuprofen [and] flu treatment”?</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">To me, they are connected. Here&#8217;s what I mean:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">My wife and I subscribe to a couple &#8220;parent magazines&#8221;. These are sometimes helpful, since they talk about developmental stages for your children, give ideas for cheap or free activities, and review various kid toys and books. In each magazine, though, are what my wife and I call &#8220;I-almost-killed-my-kid-stories&#8221;. They&#8217;re stories sent in by parents whose children had an experience that almost turned dangerous or deadly. Some of these seemingly exist just to scare you: &#8220;My toddler almost strangled herself on a window shade cord.&#8221; Or &#8220;My son broke his arm in his crib.&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">One thing that&#8217;s struck me as a young, first-time parent is the amount you have to know to simply keep your kid out of danger. Not the stuff you know intuitively, not being simply alarmist, but the stuff you&#8217;d never know without research or having others&#8217; help. Like:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">-Don&#8217;t give your kid peanuts or honey within the first year, since that increases the chances of food allergies. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">-The baby&#8217;s immune system isn&#8217;t fully developed until three months or so, so take extra care not to expose her to germs.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;">-Put your baby on her back when she sleeps to decrease the chance of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">- Keep pregnant women away from cats and cat poop, as exposure to certain feline parasites can cause miscarriage.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">The article I wrote was meant to be one of these types of warnings, where you may not have known about this without someone telling you, where the information presented was contrary to what the &#8220;average person&#8221; might think, where you may not have acquired this information by the act of parenting. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">This is my answer to your questioning the connection between topic and title.<strong> The title provides what I think is the popular assumption (there are no hidden dangers with flu treatment / ibuprofen). The article &#8211; and, increasingly, my followup comments! &#8211; are the detail why this is not the case.</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>I understand that it is your right to publish what you wish to publish.</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Since I run the website, yes, this is true. And while I&#8217;ve rejected quite a few article ideas, you might be surprised: I&#8217;ve published many articles by others that I don&#8217;t agree with. If someone is a good writer, sincere, has a topic supported by at least some in the skeptical community, and supports their case with critical thinking, I might just publish it. Even if don&#8217;t agree with the conclusion. <strong>To me, the skeptical method of analysis is just as important as the facts of the article. </strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>I don’t mean to sound harsh and if I appear to be I am sorry.</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Not at all &#8211; Critique away! You are of course allowed to disagree with me. That&#8217;s one of the <a href="../../../../../articles/" rel="nofollow">reasons I created DBS</a>: &#8220;<span style="font-size: small;"><em>To provide a forum for people to share their articles and debate respectfully with others</em>.<span style="font-size: 13px;">&#8220;</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Andy</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, I was completely unaware of these dangers.  I am glad Andy took the time to post this article.  I will be far more careful with these drugs in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, I was completely unaware of these dangers.  I am glad Andy took the time to post this article.  I will be far more careful with these drugs in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/10/03/hidden-dangers-with-ibuprofin-motrin-and-flu-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-4833</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to go on a limb here and say that I believe that most people know some dangers are associated with ibuprofen as well a acetaminophen. Granted, I didn&#039;t know there existed contraindication in regards to children. But I don&#039;t think anybody takes it for granted that a drug is safe because it is used all the time.
 
I understand that it is your right to publish what you wish to publish. That being said, I am not sure I fully appreciate the goal of this article. You have just responded to my message telling me that you believe that what happened to your daughter was caused by missing information... on your part. I  cannot seem to be able to link this back to the title of the article, or the alternative one you suggested in your response. How is the missing information about your daughter&#039;s condition in anyway related to the &quot;hidden dangers with ibuprofen [and] flu treatment&quot;?
I don&#039;t mean to sound harsh and if I appear to be I am sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to go on a limb here and say that I believe that most people know some dangers are associated with ibuprofen as well a acetaminophen. Granted, I didn&#8217;t know there existed contraindication in regards to children. But I don&#8217;t think anybody takes it for granted that a drug is safe because it is used all the time.<br />
 <br />
I understand that it is your right to publish what you wish to publish. That being said, I am not sure I fully appreciate the goal of this article. You have just responded to my message telling me that you believe that what happened to your daughter was caused by missing information&#8230; on your part. I  cannot seem to be able to link this back to the title of the article, or the alternative one you suggested in your response. How is the missing information about your daughter&#8217;s condition in anyway related to the &#8220;hidden dangers with ibuprofen [and] flu treatment&#8221;?<br />
I don&#8217;t mean to sound harsh and if I appear to be I am sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kaiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;I also want to make my opinion clear on this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;what I hear is “be skeptical of doctors”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Far from it. I like doctors a lot. I put a lot of trust in them. I respect their expertise. I am impressed at the mindset and dedication that a person must have to be a doctor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;As I summarized a while ago:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;Many many thanks to the brilliant, inspiring staff at the &lt;a style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #772124;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.devoschildrens.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital&lt;/a&gt; in Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA. They are experts in their fields, they moved fast, they took great care of us, they’re great with kids, and they saved my daughter’s life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">I also want to make my opinion clear on this:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>what I hear is “be skeptical of doctors”</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Far from it. I like doctors a lot. I put a lot of trust in them. I respect their expertise. I am impressed at the mindset and dedication that a person must have to be a doctor. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">As I summarized a while ago:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;">Many many thanks to the brilliant, inspiring staff at the <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #772124;" href="http://www.devoschildrens.org/" rel="nofollow">Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital</a> in Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA. They are experts in their fields, they moved fast, they took great care of us, they’re great with kids, and they saved my daughter’s life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Andy</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/10/03/hidden-dangers-with-ibuprofin-motrin-and-flu-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-4831</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Olivier,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;I was wondering what you had in mind when you posted this episode.
What would you say is the take home message for the skeptical community?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;I&#039;d use a less specific version of the article title. Something like:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Just because a drug is used all the time doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s safe.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Do you believe that one or both of them were unaware of anything you brought up here?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;I don&#039;t think so. I instead think they didn&#039;t realize - or my wife and I didn&#039;t make clear - the extent of my daughter&#039;s flu/dehydration. It seems more likely this was an error of missing information, not a lack of knowledge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Georgia, &#039;Times New Roman&#039;, Times, serif; color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 22px;&quot;&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivier,</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;"><em>I was wondering what you had in mind when you posted this episode.<br />
What would you say is the take home message for the skeptical community?</em> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">I&#8217;d use a less specific version of the article title. Something like:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 22px; color: #333333;"><strong>&#8220;Just because a drug is used all the time doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s safe.&#8221;</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;"><em>Do you believe that one or both of them were unaware of anything you brought up here?</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">I don&#8217;t think so. I instead think they didn&#8217;t realize &#8211; or my wife and I didn&#8217;t make clear &#8211; the extent of my daughter&#8217;s flu/dehydration. It seems more likely this was an error of missing information, not a lack of knowledge.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; color: #333333;"><span style="line-height: 22px;">Andy</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://www.dbskeptic.com/2009/10/03/hidden-dangers-with-ibuprofin-motrin-and-flu-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Andy,
I was wondering what you had in mind when you posted this episode. What would you say is the take home message for the skeptical community? Because what I hear is &quot;be skeptical of doctors&quot;. If I remember correctly you stated that 2 different doctors told you that your daughter needed to take ibuprofen. Do you believe that one or both of them were unaware of anything you brought up here? It sounds preposterous (to me) that they would be ignorant of the dangers of something as ubiquitous as  ibruprofen.
I&#039;m glad everything worked out fine in the end. I can&#039;t imagine what you and your wife have went through.
Olivier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Andy,<br />
I was wondering what you had in mind when you posted this episode. What would you say is the take home message for the skeptical community? Because what I hear is &#8220;be skeptical of doctors&#8221;. If I remember correctly you stated that 2 different doctors told you that your daughter needed to take ibuprofen. Do you believe that one or both of them were unaware of anything you brought up here? It sounds preposterous (to me) that they would be ignorant of the dangers of something as ubiquitous as  ibruprofen.<br />
I&#8217;m glad everything worked out fine in the end. I can&#8217;t imagine what you and your wife have went through.<br />
Olivier</p>
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